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		<title>Investing in an empire of illusion (from getrealist.com)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Someone pointed me at this end of year article at get realist.  Quite sobering.  The general conclusion is that government, or cap-and-trade, or international agreements are not on track to succeed in the face of climate change, and that individuals need to take more personal responsibility in making change.  I agree.  As a friend of mine said &#8220;we are all trying to learn how to live the life we need everyone else to live&#8221;.  We need many innovations, some technical, most social.  We need to expand the people working on solving these problems to a group that includes everyone.  Every small business owner, every individual.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getreallist.com/investing-in-an-empire-of-illusion.html" target="_blank">http://www.getreallist.com/investing-in-an-empire-of-illusion.html</a></p>
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		<title>Heirloom Design (from Good Magazine)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 03:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Good magazine asked me to write something about Heirloom Products.  I must have said the words too many times publicly.  If you want to read the article at a fancy website with nice pictures and good design layout go here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.good.is/post/built-to-last/" target="_blank">http://www.good.is/post/built-to-last/</a></p>
<p>Or, here are the words:</p>
<p><strong>As an inventor, </strong>Saul Griffith has spent a lot of time thinking about how to make useful things. Griffith developed innovative designs for low-cost prescription glasses and energy-producing kites, founded the DIY website Instructables, and created a comprehensive carbon calculator called WattzOn. He was also awarded a MacArthur “genius” grant in 2007. Recently, onstage at high-profile conferences such as TED and PopTech, Griffith has been arguing that we need to stop buying things and then throwing them away so quickly. In short, we need more “heirloom design.”</p>
<p><strong>GOOD: </strong><em>What do you mean by “heirloom design?”</em></p>
<p><strong>SAUL GRIFFITH:</strong> An object with “heirloom design” is something that will not only last through your lifetime and into the next generation, but that you also desire to keep that long because it’s beautiful, functional, and timeless.</p>
<p><strong>G: </strong><em>Why is it important that we design stuff to last longer?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG: </strong>An enormous amount of the energy we use [industrially] is locked up in “embodied energy.” It’s trapped, or embodied, in the materials our stuff is made of. It’s the energy that we use to mine materials and process them into products. While we can choose materials that have less embodied energy for any given product, it’s much better to choose objects that last two or three, or preferably 10 times, longer.</p>
<p>As I see the climate change and carbon dioxide problem, it is one way of figuring out how to live the best quality of life while using much less energy. Heirloom products are one way to make a significant contribution. It probably means you will end up owning less junk, your life will be less cluttered, and your stuff will be more beautiful and serve you with more joy.</p>
<p><strong><img title="lego-diagram-2" src="http://user.cloudfront.goodinc.com/community/etling/lego-diagram-2.jpg" alt="lego-diagram-2" width="275" height="220" />G:</strong> <em>How do you design an heirloom product? Do you have to think about function, materials, and aesthetics differently?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG:</strong> The principal and only way to make an heirloom product is to design something that people will need not just this year, but for the next 50 or 100 years. Choose good materials that will last that long; but in essence, don’t even bother making fad products. If you have to design something, choose things that we need as opposed to frivolous things that we might just want for a month or two for bragging rights. In many respects, designing heirloom products means saying no to designing consumer crap that you know will not last very long.</p>
<p>The hardest challenge is in electronic goods or mechanical goods. With electronics, think long and hard about how to make the firmware upgradable, or perhaps even how to have the same functionality without any electronics (electronics are notoriously short-lived and toxic). With mechanical products, think about supplying repair manuals and designing the product to be repairable or customizable from the start, such that in 13 years, when a bearing fails, it will be easy for the customer to find and replace that bearing with a similar one. Choose the timeless and standardized over the faddish and esoteric.</p>
<p><strong>G:</strong><em> What makes an object something a consumer actually wants to hold on to for generations? Its cost? Its craftsmanship?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG:</strong> Probably both. I don’t think this is an easy question to answer, and the answer is different for different people. I would, however, posit that a key ingredient is functionality. If an object performs its function beautifully, efficiently, and intuitively, it is likely an heirloom product. If not, you shouldn’t<br />
make it.</p>
<p>Think about the beautiful timeless objects: Le Creuset pots and pans, Bialetti or Bodum coffee makers, Iittala glassware, Vespa motor scooters, the Citroën 2CV, the Volkswagen Beetle, Lego toys, Zippo cigarette lighters, Montblanc pens, the Land Rover (the old aluminum ones before the queen bought one), the older KitchenAid products…</p>
<p><strong><img title="lego-diagram-3" src="http://user.cloudfront.goodinc.com/community/etling/lego-diagram-3.jpg" alt="lego-diagram-3" width="275" height="220" /></strong>I don’t want to be called elitist. These typically sound like high-end products. But the reality is we need to figure out how to help people pay for higher-quality things up front, and have them last longer. This is a solvable problem with new business models.</p>
<p><strong>G:</strong> <em>There’s the design challenge, but isn’t there also a psychological challenge? Don’t we have to disabuse people of the attitude that most things can be instantly discarded?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG:</strong> Absolutely. It’s either that or accept a very ugly climate future for your children. Or perhaps you should look at it this way: If you are 30 now, you either make these changes to how you shop, or you should expect your children to not pay for your health insurance<br />
when you are 80 because you screwed them over so badly on climate change.</p>
<p><strong>G:</strong> <em>What about the dictates of fashion? I have some old clothes I still like, but styles change. Isn’t there an aesthetic imperative to update what you own?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG: </strong>Suck it up. We have to change. That’s the gig with climate change. We have to do things in new ways and think differently. That’s an opportunity for people with their eyes open. Planned obsolescence and fashion seasons are new and constructed problems. There is no reason why we can’t do things differently. In fact, if you care about the environment and climate change, we sort of have no choice. You can ride this wave to success, or you can stick with your current mental model of the world and fail.</p>
<p><strong>G: </strong><em>But don’t companies make more money if their products need to be replaced frequently?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG: </strong>Maybe, in the short term, but the companies that last a century typically make things that last a century. Think about that for a minute.</p>
<p><strong>G:</strong> <em>Some businesses would have to make big changes to incorporate heirloom design. How do they do that?</em></p>
<p><img title="lego-diagram-4" src="http://user.cloudfront.goodinc.com/community/etling/lego-diagram-4.jpg" alt="lego-diagram-4" width="275" height="250" /><strong>SG:</strong> You figure out business models that are profitable when you also supply the repair service. You have more sustainable business models that mean you’ll be around for a while.</p>
<p>Perhaps we should think about heirloom companies too. Companies that you can give to your children because you make something beautiful and well designed that the next generation will want. I used to love the brass plaques on 100-year-old machines made by “Schmitt and Sons.” I’d like to have a company that makes the perfect heirloom coffee grinder. I’d call it “Griffith and Daughters,” maybe (though I don’t have any daughters yet—just a son).</p>
<p><strong>G:</strong> <em>Do you think major companies like Nokia and Nike will get onboard?</em></p>
<p>SG: They will either get this in the next 10 years or go out of business. I don’t mind if they go out of business. It’s their choice.</p>
<p><strong>G:</strong><em> Are any companies bringing heirloom design to new products—items other than pens and watches? Who’s putting this idea into action?</em></p>
<p><strong>SG: </strong>Sadly, very few. That’s why I talk about this stuff. You can’t make a solution for climate change add up unless you address this issue. If you are a young designer today, it might be hard; it might go against the grain. But the only way you will win in the long run, the only way you will design for the world we all want, is if you design heirloom products. Thumb your nose at the establishment.</p>
<p><em>Lego blocks, which last for generations and have infinite permutations for continued use, are an excellent example of heirloom design. The images in this post are designs that were submitted with the Lego patent application.</em></p>
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		<title>Design Predictions for 2010 (from Inhabitat)</title>
		<link>http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=449</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 03:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Inhabitat asked me to give my design predictions for 2010.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/01/04/green-design-predictions-for-2010/3/" target="_blank">http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/01/04/green-design-predictions-for-2010/3/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my words, and yes, I was fairly depressed by Copenhagen result, and it might have tainted my writings:</p>
<p>Green Design 2010:</p>
<p>Given that no binding agreement was reached in Copenhagen, there will likely be no national or international pressure to do real green-house reductions, and hence it is very likely that 2010 green design will be an undertaking of those trying to greenwash their companies. Very likely we’ll see many people misusuing terminology and physical units to overmarket products that aren’t really going to cut the mustard. Remember that a climate friendly world means a reduction in carbon of 80%, that means 5 X less carbon that we produce today, by 2050 or probably even earlier. Given that, we’ll see lots of designs begging you to buy this or that thing because it’s twice as good, or 25% better than some consumer thingy that it replaces. Well, that’s not good enough. It has to be 5 or 10 times better, or 500-1000% better, to really be a good green thing. If we are lucky a few companies will start to realize that the only way to make truly green consumer products will be by making them heirloom products, things that will last for multiple generations, be repairable without a magnifying glass or a PhD, and made from lasting materials like wood, stainless steel, copper, &amp; aluminum. I predict a huge number of car companies will claim 100mpg plug-in hybrids, and all of them will be lying, because they are only counting the energy in the gasoline, not the energy required to produce the electricity that charges the batteries that most likely came from a coal fired power plant. Yes, 2010 will be like 2009, only probably worse, with a whole lot of very ordinary design sold to us as green. We still don’t have a generation of designers who are literate in climate and energy issues, so they’ll spend their time writing marketing spin instead.</p>
<p>So, what might be the best of green design for 2010 are the things that don’t get designed. Don’t design me a new iPhone, figure out how to make my old one last. Don’t design me a new “green house”, figure out how to make the one I have more efficient. Don’t sell me physical objects, help me re-purpose the ones I have or otherwise give me digital tools for a higher quality of life that don’t require Chinese injection moldings.</p>
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		<title>Peak Cars?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Peak Cars, or Just a Car Sales Trough?  New vehicles vs. scrappage 1991-2009 <a href="http://bit.ly/6YKD79" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/6YKD79</a></p>
<p>Although with <a href="http://www.byd.com/" target="_blank">BYD</a> and <a href="http://www.tatamotors.com/" target="_blank">TATA</a> doing their thing, this is probably only a local, (US) effect.</p>
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		<title>Social Barriers to reducing embodied energy consumption</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>This Onion article wonderfully represents the sociological challenge to an heirloom product culture where we make things that last longer, such that we don&#8217;t use the extra energy every time we re-make them (or their replacements).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_device_desirable_old_device" target="_blank">http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_device_desirable_old_device</a></p>
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		<title>Bicycles.  Like comfort food in the time of accords.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>While some people claim victory in Copenhagen with an &#8220;accord&#8221; (as far as i can tell an agreement to agree about something we might agree upon at some time in the future) I&#8217;m pretty saddened by the Copenhagen result.  At times like these I turn to comfort foods.  In this case a beautiful photo series on a chinese bicycle factory.  Bicycles are still the highest technology in low emission vehicles.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cargocycling/911579868/in/set-72157601030739985/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/cargocycling/911579868/in/set-72157601030739985/</a></p>
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		<title>Lovely solar mapping project at NREL.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p><a href="http://openpv.nrel.gov/">http://openpv.nrel.gov/</a></p>
<p>They are seeking more data on PV solar installations for this map.  It&#8217;s fascinating to see the progression over time of installations, and I was startled at just how active California is compared to the rest of the nation.</p>
<p>578.5 MW to date !  only another 500GW to do !</p>
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<th>Installed Capacity (MW)</th>
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<td align="center">CA</td>
<td align="center">422.828</td>
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<td align="center">NJ</td>
<td align="center">62.43</td>
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<td align="center">CO</td>
<td align="center">17.363</td>
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<td align="center">CT</td>
<td align="center">14.904</td>
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<td align="center">AZ</td>
<td align="center">8.252</td>
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<td align="center">MA</td>
<td align="center">7.502</td>
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<td align="center">MD</td>
<td align="center">1.229</td>
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<td align="center">NM</td>
<td align="center">0.753</td>
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<td align="center">HI</td>
<td align="center">0.324</td>
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<td align="center">MN</td>
<td align="center">0.274</td>
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<td align="center">0.003</td>
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		<title>Making art of renewable energy.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>I love this, and couldn&#8217;t resist posting it.  The future could be beautiful.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/tezuka_turbine_3.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-434" title="tezuka_turbine_3" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/tezuka_turbine_3-200x300.jpg" alt="tezuka_turbine_3" width="200" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pinktentacle.com/2009/10/tezuka-wind-turbine/" target="_blank">http://www.pinktentacle.com/2009/10/tezuka-wind-turbine/</a></p>
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		<title>Open letter to Dr Levitt (super-freakonomics)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>This is really quite lovely.  Congratulations to Raymond T. Pierrehumbert for using reason, good logic, and real numbers to refute some of the insanity around regarding climate issues.  A lovely example of numbers in defense of sanity.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/10/an-open-letter-to-steve-levitt/</a></p>
<p>I think the solar power area numbers he uses might be a little optimistic, but only by a factor of 2 or so, and not that it would drastically change the conclusion of the article.</p>
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		<title>Give us this day our daily energy.</title>
		<link>http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=424</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>We fill our cars with gas regularly, but don&#8217;t even see the liquid go into the tank.  If we were to imagine that we had to fill a backpack with the fuels required for a day of our lives, what would we be filling our energy back-pack with each day?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/backpacker2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-425" title="backpacker2" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/backpacker2-192x300.jpg" alt="backpacker2" width="192" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Each day the average american sets out with:</p>
<p>OIL = 10.81    L/Person/day<br />
COAL = 9.54    kg/person/day<br />
NATURAL GAS = 5.88    m^3/person/day</p>
<p>Which roughly converted to those other units is around 22 Pints of oil per day (one per hour!), 22 pounds of coal (another per hour) and 180 cubic feet of natural gas.</p>
<p>I used the annual consumption of coal and natural gas, and the daily consumption of oil, and converted it to the daily average by dividing it out by the population of the US.</p>
<p>The data is here: <a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tEXpAv8VzEvgO5lNqze0JNw&amp;output=html">http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tEXpAv8VzEvgO5lNqze0JNw&amp;output=html</a></p>
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		<title>Obama, at MIT, on Energy.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>The president&#8217;s speech:</p>
<p><a href="http://amps-web.mit.edu/public/amps/webcast/2009/obama-2009oct23/ondemand.html" target="_blank">http://amps-web.mit.edu/public/amps/webcast/2009/obama-2009oct23/ondemand.html</a></p>
<p>And even better, my friend Alex Slocum&#8217;s post visit interview:</p>
<p><a href="http://cleanskies.com/videos/mit-demonstrates-offshore-renewable-energy-systems" target="_blank">http://cleanskies.com/videos/mit-demonstrates-offshore-renewable-energy-systems</a></p>
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		<title>America&#8217;s Low &#8220;Energy IQ&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>In the summer of 2001, The National Environmental Education Foundation conducted a survey of 1,503 American adults about energy. Although 75% of those surveyed said they knew &#8220;A Fair Amount&#8221; or &#8220;A Lot&#8221; about energy, only 12% could correctly answer 7 or more questions on a 10 question energy quiz. The quiz is on <a href="http://www.neefusa.org/pdf/roper/Roper2002.pdf">pages 4 and 5 of the report</a> (pages 15 and 16 of the PDF). So what&#8217;s your &#8220;energy IQ&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>What would a price on carbon get us?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>The discussions about a carbon tax, or a cap-and-trade system, tend to revolve around &#8220;putting a price on carbon,&#8221; which is to say, charging polluters money for dumping carbon into the atmosphere. But how should that money be used? Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.vattenfall.com/www/ccc/ccc/577730downl/602590image/index.jsp">graph from Vattenfall</a>, the Swedish power company, showing which solutions become cost-effective at a price of €40 per ton of carbon dioxide.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-172" title="VattenfallAbatementPotential" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/VattenfallAbatementPotential.jpg" alt="VattenfallAbatementPotential" width="560" height="442" /></p>
<p>The yellow section has improvements that pay for themselves, since they&#8217;re generally based around not burning fuel to begin with. The green section has the improvements that will be cost-effective at the €40 price, and the blue section has the more expensive solutions.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t verified any data that went into this graph, which is based on <a href="http://www.mckinsey.com/clientservice/ccsi/Costcurves.asp">McKinsey&#8217;s greenhouse gas abatement cost curves</a>, so I can&#8217;t comment on how realistic the numbers are. But from an energy literacy point of view, it gives a nice graphical depiction of how a price on carbon would make certain options more economically feasible.</p>
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		<title>The Short List of Effective Actions</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p><a href="http://www.environmentmagazine.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/September-October%202008/gardner-stern-table3.html"><img title="The Short List" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Picture-2-300x148.png" alt="Part of The Short List of Effective ACtions" width="300" height="148" /></a></p>
<p>This <a href="http://www.environmentmagazine.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/September-October%202008/gardner-stern-table3.html">list of action items for individual energy savings</a> is the most focused and quantitative I&#8217;ve seen. It comes from an <a href="http://www.environmentmagazine.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/September-October%202008/gardner-stern-full.html">October 2008 article</a> in Environment Magazine by <span> Gerald Gardner, </span>professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Michigan-Dearborn,<span> and Paul Stern from </span>the National Research Council.</p>
<p>The actions in the list are grouped by whether they&#8217;re for transportation or inside the home, immediate or longer-term, and no-cost/low-cost or higher-cost. Each item also includes an estimated percentage savings of total energy use. Here&#8217;s an example of an immediate, no-cost action for everyone:</p>
<blockquote><p>Space conditioning:</p>
<p>Heat: Turn down thermostat from 72°F to 68°F during the day and to 65°F at night</p>
<p>A/C: Turn up thermostat from 73°F to 78°F</p>
<p>Energy saved: 3.4 percent</p></blockquote>
<p>Compare that to the language from the Department of Energy&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/consumer/tips/save_energy.html">Tips to Save Energy Today: Easy low-cost and no-cost ways to save energy</a>,&#8221; from their Energy Saver&#8217;s Booklet <a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/consumer/tips/pdfs/energy_savers.pdf">(full PDF)</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Install a programmable thermostat to keep your house comfortably warm in the winter and comfortably cool in the summer.</p></blockquote>
<p>The DoE&#8217;s language sets up two barriers:</p>
<ol>
<li>getting and installing the programmable thermostat (which might be fairly low-cost, but probably won&#8217;t happen &#8220;today)&#8221;, and</li>
<li>learning how to use the thermostat in an effective way (even later in the booklet recommended temperatures settings are not given).</li>
</ol>
<p>Perhaps more important, the DoE&#8217;s list doesn&#8217;t give any sense of how effective one action is compared to another, and scatters the &#8220;Long-Term Savings Tips throughout this booklet&#8221; &#8212; another barrier for readers.</p>
<p>Gardner &amp; Stern&#8217;s list emphasizes relative impact of a mix of action types. People need to feel empowered to make big improvements quickly and easily, and The Short List of Effective Actions is a step towards that goal.</p>
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		<title>Spaghetti diagrams, part 2 &#8212; &#8220;Spaghetti box&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
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<p>In earlier years of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory&#8217;s spaghetti diagrams, such as the above example from 1976, the ends of the swaths were more like the simpler <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=111">energy flow diagrams</a>. On the above diagram it&#8217;s easier to see that the height of the lines on one side would end up around the height of the lines on the other side than it is on some of the <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=293">newer versions with oversized boxes</a> that serve as labels. But the boxes are a useful tool, and can let us think about embedding another diagram form &#8212; box diagrams &#8212; into the spaghetti diagram.</p>
<p>Box diagrams are used for teaching electricity, and were developed by Peter Cheng and David Shipstone in the UK. The picture below is from <a href="http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/users/peterch/papers/ChengSSR83-303.doc">part 1</a> (Word doc) of their introductory paper (here&#8217;s the Word doc <a href="http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/users/peterch/papers/ChengSSR83-304.doc">part 2</a>). Since power is the voltage across a bulb multiplied by the current through it, for a simple circuit like that shown in figure a, two boxes of equal size as shown in figure b can represent the power from the battery (the left box) and the power used by the bulb (right box).</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-327" title="ShipstoneCheng-SimpleCircuit" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ShipstoneCheng-SimpleCircuit.jpg" alt="ShipstoneCheng-SimpleCircuit" width="390" height="257" /></p>
<p>Below is a figure from a <a href="http://scitation.aip.org/vsearch/servlet/VerityServlet?KEY=PHTEAH&amp;ONLINE=YES&amp;smode=strresults&amp;sort=chron&amp;maxdisp=25&amp;threshold=0&amp;possible1=rosetta&amp;possible1zone=article&amp;OUTLOG=NO&amp;viewabs=PHTEAH&amp;key=DISPLAY&amp;docID=1&amp;page=1&amp;chapter=0">1981 article by Howard Hayden</a> (pay article) in The Physics Teacher. If you tilt your head to the right, you can imagine this diagram integrated with the spaghetti diagram. You can also think of is as a box diagram, where the energy sources on the &#8220;left&#8221; (top) are matched up with the end use loads on the &#8220;right&#8221; (bottom). This figure includes the electric utilities, just like the spaghetti diagram. And while it doesn&#8217;t graphically allocate that 21% &#8220;low grade heat&#8221; from electricity generation, it does say that industry would go from 27% to 37% of total energy use if &#8220;corrected by utilites&#8217; waste heat,&#8221; and residential/commercial would go from 25 to 37%. (Those numbers are for 1978). Transportation is unassigned, and not grouped by vehicle.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-316" title="RosettaStone-BoxDiagrams" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/RosettaStone-BoxDiagrams.jpg" alt="RosettaStone-BoxDiagrams" width="515" height="415" /></p>
<p>If we &#8220;zoom in&#8221; on the Residential &amp; Commercial box we can break it down further into how energy is used in each place. These figures are from the 2008 American Physical Society report <a href="http://www.aps.org/energyefficiencyreport/">Energy = Future: Think Efficiency</a>.</p>
<div id="attachment_322" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 569px"><img class="size-full wp-image-322" title="ResidentialEnergyEndUsage-Straight-APS" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ResidentialEnergyEndUsage-Straight-APS.jpg" alt="ResidentialEnergyEndUsage-Straight-APS" width="559" height="66" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Residential Energy End Usage</p></div>
<div id="attachment_325" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 553px"><img class="size-full wp-image-325" title="CommercialEnergyEndUse-USE-APS" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/CommercialEnergyEndUse-USE-APS.jpg" alt="CommercialEnergyEndUse-USE-APS" width="543" height="69" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Commercial Energy End Use</p></div>
<p>If we show the lost heat and CO2 for each of these individual pieces, perhaps we can motivate people to think about their actions more as part of a much larger whole. We can also show the benefits of taking <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=269">Effective Actions</a> for saving energy.</p>
<p>The interesting thing about stacked bar charts versus pie charts is that the bar charts have an added layer of quantification &#8212; we can compare bars to one another by making them quantitative. Here&#8217;s a graphic from the National Academy of Science&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nap.edu/reports/energy/supply.html">What you need to Know about Energy</a> booklet that gives a feel for the difference between the two types. The pie chart is for fractions of 100%, while the bar chart can be scaled as needed.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-326" title="Pie-To-BarChart-sd_01B" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Pie-To-BarChart-sd_01B.jpg" alt="Pie-To-BarChart-sd_01B" width="364" height="312" /></p>
<p>Once we quantify that bar chart, we can start to compare it to other bar charts. In fact, we could localize American data to compare with the diagrams in David MacKay&#8217;s great book, <a href="http://www.withouthotair.com/">Sustainable Energy &#8212; without the hot air</a>. MacKay methodically stacks up all of the UK&#8217;s potential renewable energy sources (right green stack in diagram below), and compares it to all of the UK&#8217;s energy use (left red box), looking at both on a per capita basis.</p>
<p><img title="Picture 4" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Picture-4.png" alt="Picture 4" width="165" height="564" /></p>
<p>To really drive the comparison home, we can look at the energy budgets of the developing world versus the developed world, as done in the image below. The question is: How much energy for how many people? It&#8217;s a nice presentation of world poverty and wealth scenarios. (This image, and the spaghetti diagram at the top of this post, are from a <a href="http://scitation.aip.org/getpdf/servlet/GetPDFServlet?filetype=pdf&amp;id=APCPCS000135000001000015000001&amp;idtype=cvips">1985 paper by Robert Socolow</a>.)</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-330" title="Picture 5" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Picture-5.png" alt="Picture 5" width="334" height="454" /></p>
<p>If we mix spaghetti diagrams with box diagrams, we might call them &#8220;spaghetti box&#8221; (or &#8220;Sankey box&#8221;) diagrams. It gives us a chance to see the big picture in a visual, semi-quantitative way for a conceptual overview, and become quantitative, especially when zooming in on personal energy use (the idea behind wattzon.com). The spaghetti follows where energy&#8217;s coming from, how it&#8217;s being used, and areas where we might &#8220;reject&#8221; less energy. This is a refinement of Saul&#8217;s <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=134">electricity grid stacked bar diagram</a> that could help demystify circuits and make power a much more central quantity in electricity education.</p>
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		<title>Spaghetti diagrams, part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
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<p>This &#8220;spaghetti diagram&#8221; (aka <a href="http://www.sankey-diagrams.com/the-man-behind-sankey-diagrams-llnl/">Sankey diagram</a>, or <a href="https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/energy/archive.html">Energy Flow Chart</a> officially) is the <a href="https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/energy/energy.html#2008">2008 version</a>. Lawrence Livermore National Lab (LLNL) has been making these things since the 1970s. It&#8217;s more detailed than a simpler <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=111">national energy flow diagram</a> because it includes &#8220;rejected energy.&#8221; It&#8217;s also more complex &#8212; it actually includes within itself the <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=126">electricity flow diagram</a>. It&#8217;s a pretty cool visualization.</p>
<p>The main thing I dislike is that it doesn&#8217;t split up transportation or electricity generation &#8220;rejected energy&#8221; by sector. Since these are really the two biggest sources of &#8220;rejected energy,&#8221; you can&#8217;t see which group is the biggest &#8220;rejector.&#8221;</p>
<p>Below, in an <a href="https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/energy/content/energy/electricity_generation/LLNL_Energy_Chart300.jpg">undated but funkier design</a>, they&#8217;ve not only split up transportation into light duty vehicles, freight/other, and aircraft, they&#8217;ve also added domestic and net imports to petroleum and natural gas. They still haven&#8217;t split up &#8220;Electricity Generation, Transmission &amp; Distribution Losses,&#8221; so we don&#8217;t know who &#8220;loses&#8221; the most energy.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-300" title="LLNL_Energy_Chart300" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/LLNL_Energy_Chart3001-1024x678.jpg" alt="LLNL_Energy_Chart300" width="614" height="407" /></p>
<p>LLNL has used flow charts to show possible future scenarios, such as the example below for 2050 where we use 145.5 Quads of energy <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;hs=acp&amp;q=1.53510627+%C3%97+10^20+%2F+31556926&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=" target="_blank">(4.86TW power) </a>but have &#8220;a) 50% efficient electricity generation, and b) 318 million &#8220;80 mpg&#8221; H2 fuel cell vehicles.&#8221; (Taken from this <a href="https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/energy/content/energy/energy_archive/energy_flowchart_scenarios/ucrlTR204891.pdf">7.8MB PDF</a>.) It&#8217;s a nice depiction of how hydrogen is just a way of making energy more convenient, similar to electricity. Hydrogen is not itself an energy source (there are no hydrogen mines); hydrogen is a way of storing energy, and it takes energy to produce hydrogen.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-302" title="Picture 3" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Picture-3.png" alt="Picture 3" width="611" height="395" /></p>
<p>LLNL has also made diagrams showing the carbon emissions from our energy sources. There&#8217;s no separation of &#8220;Useful CO2 Emissions&#8221; and &#8220;Rejected CO2 Emissions&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s all rejected. Alternative energy sources are shown with zero emissions, but that ignores the not-insignificant CO2 emissions that would result from the manufacturing massive quantities of those alternatives.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-large wp-image-303" title="CO2Spaghetti-2007" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/CO2Spaghetti-2007-1024x682.png" alt="CO2Spaghetti-2007" width="614" height="409" /></p>
<p>There&#8217;s another type of diagram that might be tied in to these spaghetti diagrams. More about that in part 2.</p>
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		<title>Choosing fun and beauty over high energy.  Motivating positive behavioural change.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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<p>I like the general concept of motivating behavioural changes for the low energy option by using fun, beauty, or good design.  The larger message here is that personal changes for climate change really need to be better, either more beautiful, more fun, or more healthy, than the other choices.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>Here&#8217;s a picture from <a href="http://www.nap.edu/reports/energy/index.html">What You Need to Know about Energy</a> by the National Academy of Sciences. It shows 100 energy units of coal being used by an incandescent bulb to produce light that has only 2 energy units:</p>
<div id="attachment_234" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 380px"><img class="size-full wp-image-234 " title="Wasting Energy" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sources_01.jpg" alt="Reprinted with permission from &quot;What you need to know about energy,&quot; 2008, by the National Academy of Sciences, Courtesy of the National Academies Press, Washington, D.C. " width="370" height="325" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Reprinted with permission from &quot;What you need to know about energy,&quot; 2008, by the National Academy of Sciences, Courtesy of the National Academies Press, Washington, D.C. </p></div>
<p>Incandescent bulbs get hot because only 2/36 (about 5%) of the energy coming into the house to power the bulb comes out as light &#8212; the rest of the energy produces heat. If you trace the energy back to the power plant, it turns out a mere 2% of the energy from the coal is doing the desired lighting job! The power plant itself loses 62% of the coal&#8217;s energy! Compact fluorescents use about 5% of the coal&#8217;s energy &#8212; better, but not much.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to think about how well our devices use energy to do what we want (such as providing light), and why a compact fluorescent is better than an incandescent bulb. But given how big the <a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=134">energy loss is from simply producing electricity in traditional power plants</a>, it&#8217;s also important to think about where that energy comes from. Fossil fuel power plants waste a lot of energy, which makes all electrical devices powered by them relatively wasteful. This can help frame the debate about our energy options by getting people thinking about energy sources (like power plants) and the relationship to energy loads (like bulbs).</p>
<p>This also illuminates some of the confusions about the word &#8220;efficiency.&#8221; Compact fluorescents and LEDs are more efficient than incandescents in that they use less energy to do the same job, but the majority of the inefficiency in the overall system is at the power plant.</p>
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		<title>My view on zero-point energy.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>This cartoon pretty much sums it up.  Let&#8217;s plan on the stuff we know works, and invest in the research we know might lead somewhere.  Not hold out for alien finger&#8217;s crossed we don&#8217;t understand it technology.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-253" title="aliencartoon002" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/aliencartoon002-238x300.jpg" alt="aliencartoon002" width="238" height="300" /></p>
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		<title>Question from Steve Kirsch &#8211; Nuclear power plants.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p><img src="http://spreadsheets.google.com/oimg?key=0Ajz-a2-Ol22KdDZxNF9SVHRhX1RfTHJNTFVzVUk4NEE&amp;oid=2&amp;v=1255633992874" alt="" /></p>
<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/capacity_factor_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-247" title="capacity_factor,_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/capacity_factor_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet-300x225.png" alt="capacity_factor,_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet" width="300" height="225" /></a></div>
<blockquote>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">&#8220;you want 3 TW of new nuclear.</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span> </span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">that&#8217;s a 2.3GW plant every week for 25  years&#8230;</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">you have 1X 3GW plant a week for 25 years which would  overshoot your goal.</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff; font-size: x-small;">am i missing something?&#8221;</span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr">First, and to be clear, I don&#8217;t &#8220;want&#8221; 3TW.  In doing the numbers on what would be required to stay under 450ppm of CO2 it looks like you need to create 11.5-12TW of clean power as well as keeping demand at current levels (16TW).  I tried to agnostically apportion that 11.5 TW across known working technologies, solar PV, solar thermal, wind, geothermal, nuclear, and biofuels.  It&#8217;s a thought experiment, and I would be happy with any solution for climate change, hence more or less of any one of these is fine with me as long as it all adds up.  And yes, 450 isn&#8217;t necessarily a &#8217;safe&#8217; target, so I&#8217;d be happy for that to be lower, (or if the scientific consensus changes in that direction higher).</div>
<div dir="ltr">In doing the numbers I assumed a capacity factor of 0.8 for Nuclear power.  I got this number from a text book somewhere.  So, let&#8217;s look at Steve&#8217;s assertion above:</div>
<div dir="ltr">3 GW x 52 weeks x 25 years = 3900 GW (3.9TW)</div>
<div dir="ltr">but that doesn&#8217;t compensate for capacity factor:</div>
<div dir="ltr">3900GW x 0.8 = 3120GW or 3.12TW.</div>
<div dir="ltr">But, then I thought I should look at the data, and to my surprise we are doing much better on Nuclear power capacity factor:</div>
<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.eia.doe.gov/aer/txt/ptb0902.html" target="_blank">http://www.eia.doe.gov/aer/txt/ptb0902.html</a></div>
<div dir="ltr">As you can see the capacity factor is up at 0.9 (91%) or more now.  Which means we only need to build one 3GW plant every 8 days instead of one per week&#8230;.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Some more pretty graphs:</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/net_summer_capacity_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet_.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-248" title="net_summer_capacity,_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet_" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/net_summer_capacity_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet_-300x225.png" alt="net_summer_capacity,_us_nuclear_power_generation_fleet_" width="300" height="225" /></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/percentage_of_us_electricity_grid_by_nuclear.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-249" title="percentage_of_us_electricity_grid,_by_nuclear" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/percentage_of_us_electricity_grid_by_nuclear-300x225.png" alt="percentage_of_us_electricity_grid,_by_nuclear" width="300" height="225" /></a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/us_nuclear_generation_by_year_gw.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-250" title="us_nuclear_generation_by_year_(gw)" src="http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/us_nuclear_generation_by_year_gw-300x225.png" alt="us_nuclear_generation_by_year_(gw)" width="300" height="225" /></a></div>
<div><a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t6q4_RTta_T_LrMLUsUI84A&amp;single=true&amp;gid=0&amp;output=html" target="_blank">Raw data</a> &#8211; Google Spreadsheet of EIA data</div>
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		<title>Contemplating my daily shower, during my daily shower.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I love a hot shower in the morning. While it&#8217;s not a human right just yet, occasionally it feels like one.  So how much energy does it take to have a hot shower?</p>
<p>The simple version looks like this:</p>
<p>First we establish the conversion units&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>liters_in_gallon=3.78541178</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>H2O_heat_capacity=4.18   (J/g/K)</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>seconds_in_day = 60*60*24</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>density_water = 1 (g/cm^3)</li>
</ul>
<p>Now assume 2 gallons per minute of shower from my low flow shower head and assume 5 minute hot showers at 40 degrees celsius (about 100F).</p>
<ul>
<li>showers_per_day =1</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>gallons_per_minute =2</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>minutes_per_shower =5</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>liters_per_shower = liters_in_gallon * gallons_per_minute * minutes_per_shower</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>grams_per_shower = liters_per_shower * 1000 * density_water</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>shower_Temperature=40</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>ambient_Temperature=8</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>shower_heat_Joules=showers_per_day *(grams_per_shower * H2O_heat_capacity *(shower_Temperature-ambient_Temperature))</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>daily_shower_Watts = shower_heat_Joules/seconds_in_day</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>shower_heat_Joules = 5063400<br />
daily_shower_Watts = 58.6038</strong><br />
Which is of course just the energy or power that my water heater consumes.  The above estimate is probably low because I assumed 100% efficient water heater, and no losses in the piping.  One might call each of those 10% losses (or 90% efficiencies) which would make it around 70 watts.  If it is a natural gas heater or a solar hot water heater, then that value is correct.  If however it is an electrically heated water heater powered by the mix of fuels that supply grid electricity you probably need to multiply that number by 3 (because the grid only converts primary energy to usable energy at about 33% efficiency)</p>
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		<title>The measurements of energy and power.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><blockquote><p>Energy is measured in Joules (J)<br />
Power is measured in Watts (W).<br />
1 Watt = 1 Joule / second</p></blockquote>
<p>If you would like to quantitatively understand the relationship between your lifestyle, global energy use, and climate change, you need to establish the language with which you can translate between these things.<br />
There are many different ways we use energy, many different ways we produce energy, and many different consequences environmentally.<br />
Power and energy are being measured around us all of the time. You get your electricity bill in kilowatt hours (kWh), your gas bill in Therms or British Thermal Units (BTUs), your car’s performance is measured in horsepower, and your lightbulbs are rated in watts. To compare these things you need a common set of units.<br />
The first problem with comparing these things is that some of them (BTUs and kWh) are measures of energy consumed, and some of them (horsepower and watts) are measures of power. To understand the rest of this book, you need an intuition for the difference between energy, and power. Energy is an abstract concept, while people often have a more intuitive understanding of power—my car has 200 horsepower!˝<br />
Energy is required to do work. Work is the exertion of a force over some distance. You perform work on an apple when you lift it from the ground to a table. Energy is the measure of how much work can be done, whether it be moving apples, heating your house, or driving your car. You transform energy from one form to another when you do work.  For example, you convert the chemical energy contained within gasoline to mechanical energy of rotating the crankshaft when it is burnt in an internal combustion engine.  The energy that doesn’t make it to the crankshaft is converted to heat.  That’s why your engine gets hot.<br />
Power is the rate at which you consume energy or do work. Lifting the apple onto the table quickly requires more power than doing it slowly, but the same amount of work is performed.  A more powerful car engine can accelerate you to 65 mph faster than an engine with less power, but they both get you to 65mph.<br />
Energy is a quantity, whereas power is a rate.<br />
Quantitative comparison of aspects of your life could have been made in terms of energy or power. If you use energy, you are bound to ask questions about the time period: is it the amount of energy in a month? Or over a lifetime? It was those questions that convinced us to start thinking in terms of power rather than energy.<br />
Having decided to talk about power, we still needed to decide upon the right units to talk in.  Should it be kilowatt hours per day? Horsepower? BTUs per month? Watts?<br />
Kilowatt hours per day measure the use of electricity well. Horsepower measures the use of mechanical power well. BTUs per month describe the use of heat well. Watts, however, are universal, and are in fact the scientific standard as defined by the Système Internationale, so we decided to use them to measure our lives.<br />
Having decided to write the entire book in Watts, we will still require the reader to think occasionally about energy, especially in the embodied energy of objects.  It isn’t easy, but it is necessary.</p>
<blockquote><p>Power = Energy / Time.</p>
<p>When we talk about energy we are talking about a quantity.</p>
<p>When we talk about power we are talking about the rate of using energy.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_energy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_energy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_units#Energy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_units#Energy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt</a></p>
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		<title>Primer: energy and power.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>If you would like to quantitatively understand the relationship between your lifestyle, global energy use, and climate change, you need to establish the language with which you can translate between these things.<br />
There are many different ways we use energy, many different ways we produce energy, and many different consequences environmentally.<br />
Power and energy are being measured around us all of the time. You get your electricity bill in kilowatt hours (kWh), your gas bill in Therms or British Thermal Units (BTUs), your car’s performance is measured in horsepower, and your lightbulbs are rated in watts. To compare these things you need a common set of units.<br />
The first problem with comparing these things is that some of them (BTUs and kWh) are measures of energy consumed, and some of them (horsepower and watts) are measures of power. To understand the rest of this book, you need an intuition for the difference between energy, and power. Energy is an abstract concept, while people often have a more intuitive understanding of power—my car has 200 horsepower!˝<br />
Energy is required to do work. Work is the exertion of a force over some distance. You perform work on an apple when you lift it from the ground to a table. Energy is the measure of how much work can be done, whether it be moving apples, heating your house, or driving your car. You transform energy from one form to another when you do work.  For example, you convert the chemical energy contained within gasoline to mechanical energy of rotating the crankshaft when it is burnt in an internal combustion engine.  The energy that doesn’t make it to the crankshaft is converted to heat.  That’s why your engine gets hot.<br />
Power is the rate at which you consume energy or do work. Lifting the apple onto the table quickly requires more power than doing it slowly, but the same amount of work is performed.  A more powerful car engine can accelerate you to 65 mph faster than an engine with less power, but they both get you to 65mph.<br />
Energy is a quantity, whereas power is a rate.<br />
Quantitative comparison of aspects of your life could have been made in terms of energy or power. If you use energy, you are bound to ask questions about the time period: is it the amount of energy in a month? Or over a lifetime? It was those questions that convinced us to start thinking in terms of power rather than energy.<br />
Having decided to talk about power, we still needed to decide upon the right units to talk in.  Should it be kilowatt hours per day? Horsepower? BTUs per month? Watts?<br />
Kilowatt hours per day measure the use of electricity well. Horsepower measures the use of mechanical power well. BTUs per month describe the use of heat well. Watts, however, are universal, and are in fact the scientific standard as defined by the Système Internationale, so we decided to use them to measure our lives.</p>
<p><strong>Power = Energy / Time.</strong></p>
<p><strong>When we talk about energy we are talking about a <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>quantity</em></span>.</strong></p>
<p><strong>When we talk about power we are talking about the <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>rate</em></span> of using energy.</strong></p>
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		<title>7 steps to understanding climate change and you.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br/><p>1. Your energy consumption is a result of your lifestyle choices.</p>
<p>2. Global energy consumption is the result of everyone&#8217;s choices.</p>
<p>3. Energy can be generated from many sources.</p>
<p>4. Different energy sources have different environmental effects.</p>
<p>5. We are collectively choosing the global climate by choosing how we generate this energy.</p>
<p>6. Our climate choice (PPM) determines how much carbon dioxide we can emit using fossil fuels.</p>
<p>7. Producing enough energy for humanity while solving the climate problem is an enormous engineering challenge, but within the limits of what we can do today.</p>
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		<title>Transcript and unanswered questions from O&#8217;Reilly Media Energy Literacy Webcast.</title>
		<link>http://www.energyliteracy.com/?p=212</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi Everyone—thanks for joining us today. The presentation will begin at 10 am PT. There will be silence or faint music until then.<br />
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for the streaming audio: should I be hearing background music of any sort or any other noise at this time?  or is silence correct at this point?<br />
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<p>If you&#8217;re a twitter user, we&#8217;re using the hashtag #energyliteracy for this webcast<br />
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thank you<br />
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I can hear faint music. When I increase the volume the hiss is high as well.<br />
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Hi Everyone—thanks for joining us today. The presentation will begin at 10 am PT. There will be silence or faint music until then.<br />
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you may also follow the energy literacy (<a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com" target="_blank">energyliteracy.com</a>) blog on twitter at energyliteracy</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You can also go to <a href="http://www.wattzon.com" target="_blank">www.wattzon.com</a> to do similar estimates and pie charts of your own energy consumption.</span></p>
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nicole &#8211; please stop being so high maintenance and sit back, relax and LISTEN<br />
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I like the apple plug&#8230;.smooth</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">This was not an apple plug.  They greenwash with the best of them, and are not transparent about their supply chain and energy use and carbon.  This was merely an analogy for understanding power consumption.</span></p>
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How do you measure how much power individual devices consume?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Devices like the tweet-a-watt, kill-a-watt, etc will all log the data.  You can also just use a plain old volt meter if it also does current.  There are lots of these smart devices now.</span></p>
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When you say 8K watts for flying, is that the total plane energy use, divided up by all passengers on the plane?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The energy calculation is the number of miles I flew (from my records of my travel) multiplied by the number of Joules of energy per passenger flying mile.  This can be estimated at 1.4MJ/passenger km, and is similar to the data published in airline reports that tell you how much jetfuel they burnt and how many passenger miles they flew in a given year which can be divided out to give the energy / passenger km.</span></p>
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Lin, there are a number of devices you can use &#8211; the easiest plug into the wall and you plug in the device to it, and it gives you a real time reading in watts.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Seth, are you eating more meat and fish than vegetables, or are vegetables more energy efficient  than meat and fish production?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Vegetables are about 20 -100 times more efficient than meat.  chicken is better than pork is better than beef.  I don&#8217;t have the exact numbers at the top of my head, but people are working on that.</span></p>
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his numbers seem of by a factor of 100<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
off</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I&#8217;m pretty sure they are close to accurate.  Some are off by a factor of 2 or 3, but I know it is not 100.  It is hard to measure all of these things.  If you find mistakes please let me know.</span><br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jim Harvey to All Attendees:</span><br />
That sofa and futon take a TON of energy</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The important thing to note about the embodied energy of &#8220;stuff&#8221; like sofa and futon is that if you make it last 10 years instead of 1 year, then it uses the same amount of ENERGY (Joules), but uses much less POWER (Watts) because the Energy is amortised over a longer time period.  It is hence easy to think these numbers are inaccurate &#8211; they are strongly dependent on how long you assume the useful lifetime of the stuff is.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Power (Watts) = Energy (Joules) / Time (Seconds)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Pat Walsh to All Participants:</span><br />
wow, the work it took to make all of this&#8230;.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Very impressive. I couldn&#8217;t even tell you what I ate for lunch yesterday.<br />
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Probably why he hasn&#8217;t updated it since 2007.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Untrue.  I keep all of the data at www.wattzon.com and keep a running average for myself.  Slowly we are developing the tools to keep a constantly updating measurement, but as you can see it is complex and hard with many components.</span></p>
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This would be nice to see in detail.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
once you see all this laid out, imagine the economic impact that occurs when you attempt to significantly curtail energy consumption&#8230;and the embedded resistance to such change.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Pat Walsh to All Participants:</span><br />
wow &#8211; look at Qatar<br />
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why is Qatar so energy intensive?<br />
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Why is Qatar so high?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Energy is cheap in Qatar (oil producing nation) and hence air conditioning is free (in an economic sense).  Also, without knowing the intricacies of how every country reports the data to the IEA (international energy agency) it&#8217;s hard to know if everyone measures things exactly the same way&#8230;</span><br />
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UK looks like half of U.S&#8230;.<br />
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a/c ain&#8217;t cheap<br />
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Hmm, That&#8217;s in 2003 &#8211; what&#8217;s usage like in 2009?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Yuwei Lin to All Participants:</span><br />
that data was in 2003</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">2009 might be lower than 2003 due to the economic crisis and people buying less stuff and using less fuel&#8230;.  a nice side effect of a bad thing.</span><br />
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Wow Qatar!<br />
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WOW!!!<br />
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great image<br />
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Is the country consumption data normalized per capita?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">YES.  I also have the data in total, without per capita.  Unfortunately these data sets (like census data) are not updated as often as you would like.</span></p>
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Is inefficiency included in this flow diagram?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">The inefficiency of the combustion processes for generating electricity (heating water to make steam to run turbines) are in the flow diagram.  Inefficiencies at the user end, like your refrigerator, are not.</span></p>
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this image looks like a whale<br />
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there it is<br />
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<span style="color: #0000ff;">from nils-michael langenborg to All Participants:</span><br />
this IS depressing&#8230;</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Knowledge is not depressing.  This should be seen as uplifting.  Once you know the scope of the problem you can engineer a solution.  We must be positive not defeatist.</span></p>
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Maybe he&#8217;ll give us some hopeful messages!<br />
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Hi Nils-Michael, GreenMBA is in the (hot)house<br />
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India is low, considering its population<br />
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what does GtC means?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Giga Tons of carbon &#8211; which is 1 Billion tons of carbon.</span><br />
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Energy flow looked like a whale&#8230;so much energy lost in transmission/conversion&#8230;energy FAIL whale?<br />
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GtC = Gigatons of Carbon?<br />
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GtC = giga-tons of carbon<br />
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Giga Tons of carbon<br />
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Time to get the heck out tof Europe<br />
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Global warming is undeniable. &#8230; Yet many politicians still deny it.<br />
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look at the blue!<br />
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with so much heat rise in the Siberian area the permafrost will release massive amounts of methane&#8230;23x as bad as co2<br />
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not just politicians<br />
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as long as politicians are taking handouts from industrial megacorps, they will continue to deny it<br />
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Will this be available on energyliteracy.com with the host doing the vo?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Maybe, but you will find other videos with voice-over of the same material there.</span><br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from nils-michael langenborg to All Participants:</span><br />
no&#8230;he said just slides<br />
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too bad<br />
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<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
regular people don&#8217;t want to give up their conveniences&#8230;businesses want to maximize profits/maintain status quo&#8230;no significant change until critical mass cross section of humanity is willing to act against their own immediate self-interest<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
pessimists believe no change until some of the catastrophes happen/become visible<br />
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Jim Hansen in 2012!<br />
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problem: the &#8220;golden&#8221; billion doesn&#8217;t want to give up its lifestyle to the other 5 billion&#8230;<br />
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Bravo on well-designed images and materials.<br />
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how about the whales living on krill ONLY as the most recent headlines in the Chron<br />
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another way of looking at what Bill Sandreuter says is that if we immediately allocated something like the NPV cost of our carbon contribution to energy (with perhaps a transition time of 5 &#8211; 10 years where it is discounted so people can adapt) we would be forced to immediatly pay more attention.  We could even arbitrage it by letting people take current cash benefit for reducing carbon but not charge them as much now as they should pay for it&#8230;<br />
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Nils-Michael has the right of it<br />
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getting garbled speech&#8230;<br />
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that worked.  thanks.<br />
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this presentation is incredibly rich&#8230;amazingly well done!!!  BRAVO!<br />
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Clearly fat people are the problem &#8211; ag is one of the biggest energy users</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Actually Ag isn&#8217;t one of the biggest uses.  That is Cars and transport, electricity generation from coal, and heat and refrigeration.  Food is probably less than 5%.  That said the data for food is among the hardest to get, estimate, and be confident of.</span></p>
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yes to Martin also<br />
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how about wind power?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">wind power is indirectly solar power generated by the differential heating of the atmosphere.  Some from spinning of the earth too.</span><br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Yuwei Lin to All Participants:</span><br />
is that included in the gravity generated power?<br />
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Martin: exactly. Start building in &#8220;true cost&#8221; and people will make better decisions<br />
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hyrdoelectric?<br />
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80% of energy to produce solar is waste heat&#8230;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
problem is getting the politicians to do the right thing, we know what we need to do.<br />
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Wish Saul could present this at the UN and/or copenhagen<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from pedro martinez to All Participants:</span><br />
its not just about politicians there are technical issues with renewable energy</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">All of which have been overcome or are possible to overcome.  The issues are cost we are prepared to pay for clean energy, not technology.</span></p>
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How about ground source (shallow) geothermal with heat pumps?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">This is definitely the most efficient way to heat a house.  The temperature of the ground not too far down is a relatively constant 50-60 degrees fahrenheit, all year round.  The energy to heat or cool something is proportional to the difference between the high temperature and the low temperature.  Using the ground temperature as a source means the &#8220;delta T&#8221; or difference in temperature is lower, and therefore less energy is needed to heat or cool the house/building etc.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
pedro &#8211; i meant more along the lines of &#8220;true cost&#8221;. e.g. removing agriculture subsidies, etc.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
Apart from nukes, you cannot extract energy from the earth without messing it up<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Can we reduce our power consumption ?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
reduce population = reduce need for power<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Lucas Vogel to All Participants:</span><br />
what about energy &#8216;offsets&#8217; from natural disasters?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
What about fusion???<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
2TW solar is 1.6TW of heat&#8230;.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">No.  These numbers are 2TW of electrical energy of solar.  There will be 6 or 8 TW of heat lost somewhere, but it was coming into the atmosphere anyway.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
oops sorry &#8211; it&#8217;s 2TW solar is 10TW heat</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">But there is 80000-120000 TW of heat already coming in.</span></p>
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increase efficiency = reduce waste = reduce consumption<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
wonder if this factors in the costs of building and maintining high capacity transmission lines?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">No, but that is a very small component, probably less than 1%.</span></p>
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algae make CO2&#8230;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from pedro martinez to All Participants:</span><br />
also have to figure out energy storage with renewables for elec gen; eg. it is not windy every day nor sunny every day</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Storage can be done with pumped hydro, flywheels, flow batteries, regular batteries, isotropic heat, other heat storage, or compressed air.  Storage is a hard piece of the problem, but not impossible.  Most storage technologies are 50-80% round trip efficiency, meaning you lose 20-50% of the energy in the conversion in and out of storage.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
yep&#8230;storage &amp; transmission are key components&#8230;along with reducing consupmtion<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
Time to move to the Indian Ocean?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Greece: please volunteer to supply the world&#8217;s solar power &#8230;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
hyroelectric power from melting glaciers is the answer<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
You could grow algae in Lake Mead and get hydro too perhaps?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
overlay energy<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
I&#8217;ve heard that wind turbine technology is close to optimized&#8230;but there is a lot more potential for improvements in solar panel efficiency<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">High quality wind turbines extract 50% out of a theoretical upper limit (Betz limit) of 59.6%.  They are excellent, elegant machines.  Solar record is around 40%, they might get to 80% if we do everything perfectly, but I suspect 50% is more realistic.  Commercial cells are more typically 10-20% efficient.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
My question is: is that the world we want to be living in where we are devoting so much space to energy production? why not reduce population and reduce requirements? we could do that if we all decided to (globally)<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
Advancing Fusion quickly is looking a lot more appealing<br />
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<span style="color: #0000ff;">from nils-michael langenborg to All Participants:</span><br />
we are consuming ourselves to extinction&#8230;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
We can&#8217;t wait for many of these solutions<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from james Caldwell to All Participants:</span><br />
However, if we build traditional homes and cars, we generate more ppm than building green homes and cars.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
i really wish the world&#8217;s leaders could see this presentation, it&#8217;s the most compelling articulation of the problem that I&#8217;ve ever seen<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
the answer to Elizabeth&#8217;s question encompasses all the issues &#8211; no meaningful change until enough people &#8220;get it&#8221;.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
In 1950, Aldous Huxley warned about the over-population problem. The world population then was only 2.5 billion<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
Its just not realistic to &#8216;decide&#8217; to reduce the population as a solution<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
lol&#8230;all the speculative fiction my parents told me not to read is becoming eerily &#8220;real&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
with tidal power he&#8217;ll be giving   up his surfing hobby</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Yes, this is a danger, though waves are generated from wind, not tides.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jim Harvey to All Attendees:</span><br />
I&#8217;d need to surf, sail, and drive a dune buggy too, to deal with what I knew if I was Saul.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from nils-michael langenborg to All Participants:</span><br />
WWSD?  What Would Saul Do?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
vegan conspiracy at work here&#8230;.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from jon cross to All Participants:</span><br />
How are you going to determine reducing population, Just telling people not to breed, or education doesnt stop natual biology, Most western countries already have low to no population growth<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
right, Kay&#8230;the decision is made by each individual (or pair of individuals)<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from pedro martinez to All Participants:</span><br />
thank you jon<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
This is like the health care issue &#8212; a few of us making the right decision will not resolve the millions that will do nothing<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from pedro martinez to All Participants:</span><br />
yes the west should force contraception, etc on the developing natinons<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Todd Spraggins to All Participants:</span><br />
Longevity of goods, there goes shopping at Walmart<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
Not that I&#8217;m bored, but what time does this finish?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from ryn Longmaid to All Participants:</span><br />
Need more info on the energy effeciency of the local farm vs agri-business&#8211;did he say the local farm may be less effecient?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">I did say that agro business might be more &#8220;energy efficient&#8221;, but the data is not good, and like many of things the relentless pursuit of energy efficiency can ignore other things like water use, land use, soil depletion, ecosystem destruction etc. etc&#8230;.  this is what makes this a uniquely hard problem.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
i am not seeing the new slide.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
neither am i<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
got it now<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
yay, bottle<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Don Barthel to All Attendees:</span><br />
There!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jeff Belina to All Participants:</span><br />
so, which is greener&#8230; for me to use my 3 year old laptop, or buy a new netbook? <img src='http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Keep your laptop as long as possible is probably the answer&#8230; depends on how frequently you use it, and the difference in their power consumption during use.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Don Barthel to All Attendees:</span><br />
Yes, amazing.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jeff Belina to All Participants:</span><br />
great presentation, thanks!!!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jim Harvey to All Attendees:</span><br />
Great presentation, Saul!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ed Parker to All Participants:</span><br />
Thanks, Saul!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Yes, thank you, Saul !<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from pedro martinez to All Participants:</span><br />
jeff- netbook<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from kol peterson to All Attendees:</span><br />
Thanks Saul.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Zakariyya Mughal to All Participants:</span><br />
Thank you for the informative presentation.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from tarikh Korula to All Participants:</span><br />
Thanks Saul<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Valerie Zahorski Schmidt to All Participants:</span><br />
Fabulous presentation!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Kathy Capkovic to All Participants:</span><br />
thank you<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from nobu Saito to All Participants:</span><br />
this drink contains a lot of sugar. have you read the label?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
it will take EVERYTHING, COMBINED to make a dent in this issue and start to change our course.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
Excellent, Saul &#8211; Much appreciated!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Raju Varghese to All Participants:</span><br />
Thanks Saul for educating us on the magnitude of the problem.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Marsee Henon to All Participants:</span><br />
<a href="http://www.energyliteracy.com/">http://www.energyliteracy.com/</a><br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
How do we get this presentation out?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Elisabeth Robson to All Participants:</span><br />
how can we get Saul to Copenhagen to present this to the world&#8217;s leaders?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from max tite to All Participants:</span><br />
SAULs &#8211; the new  measurement unit of Energy Awareness!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from ryn Longmaid to All Participants:</span><br />
Hopenhagen&#8211;good idea<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Saul can webcast to Copenhagen &#8230;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Yuwei Lin to All Participants:</span><br />
Brilliant idea &#8211; max tite<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
the more people who see this and get more concerned than they are now, the better&#8230;use FaceBook, Twitter, Blogs, all the viral marketing channels you all have access to&#8230;still a tiny drop in the bucket but&#8230;something we CAN do<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jeff Belina to All Participants:</span><br />
what&#8217;s the conversion rate from SAULs to ppm? <img src='http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
Please ask Saul about thoughts on fission and fusion</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Fission = conventional nuclear energy.  We need to have a much more nuanced debate.  Very likely it is a big part of a &#8220;solution&#8221;, but it will be hard fought due to interest groups.  It isn&#8217;t rational for someone to say they want to prevent climate change, they want to continue their existing lifestyle, and they don&#8217;t accept fission or nuclear energy.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Fusion = combining light atoms and producing energy instead of splitting big atoms.  This is not a fantasy, but we do not yet have a working solution at scale.  i would devote significant funding resources to this if I had the power to do so.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from KAY Voyvodich to All Participants:</span><br />
Will we have the audio?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Philip Reid to All Participants:</span><br />
fascinating and disturbing<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Marsee Henon to All Participants:</span><br />
The next O&#8217;Reilly Radar Global Issues Series webcast &#8220;Nuclear Energy: Future Directions&#8221; by Per F. Peterson will take place on Thursday, October 15. Please join us. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e/1400<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
And don&#8217;t forget about Al Gore&#8217;s film and book, An Inconvenient Truth<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Jeff Belina to All Participants:</span><br />
united nations and other worldly organizations need to hear this<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Gary Sorin to All Participants:</span><br />
where on energyliteracy.org can i find the things he refers to?<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
Thanks for the webcast. I&#8217;m off in my Range Rover Sport to burn some puffins before I jump off a cliff.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Ben Ward to All Participants:</span><br />
Srsly though, it was very interesting and gives me a sense of urgency and impotence all at once.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Raju Varghese to All Participants:</span><br />
Gary it is http://www.energyliteracy.com/<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Don Barthel to All Attendees:</span><br />
We forgive your travel, Saul, its important for you to get the word out.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
I will stay home, so that Saul can travel far.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from pedro martinez to All Participants:</span><br />
Saul &#8211; how about clean coal; how big an impact</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Depends on what people mean.  Clean coal can just mean lower emission of SOx and NOx (nitrous and sulfurus oxides) which doesn&#8217;t have any impact really on CO2.  Clean coal could mean fully sequestered CO2  (CCS) but we don&#8217;t really KNOW if that works at full scale.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Vinogradov to All Participants:</span><br />
Thanks Saul<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Martin Haeberli to All Participants:</span><br />
thanks, Saul!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Gary Sorin to All Participants:</span><br />
thank you Raju<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from David Daza to All Participants:</span><br />
tks, great presentation<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from nobu Saito to All Participants:</span><br />
thank you saul. hope see you in the water.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from jon cross to All Participants:</span><br />
thanks<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Bill Sandreuter to All Participants:</span><br />
GREAT STUFF, Saul!  Thank you, O&#8217;Reilly also<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Yuwei Lin to All Participants:</span><br />
Thank you, Saul. Thank you everyone.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Andy Turudic to All Attendees:</span><br />
thanks &#8211; good stuff o&#8217;reilly<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Phil Worrall to All Participants:</span><br />
thanks much!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from ryn Longmaid to All Participants:</span><br />
Thank you!<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Vinogradov to All Participants:</span><br />
w00t<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from Michael Pastore to All Participants:</span><br />
Bravo !<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">from J Shelby to All Participants:</span><br />
Where is Sauls Blog???</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You are at it if you are reading this.  Also bloggin here are Jim McBride and Joel Rosenberg.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">from adrian delisser to All Participants:</span><br />
Impressive presentation.</p>
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